OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions on Edgers Two Stroke Edgers Tilt-A-Cut tinkering

Johno123,

Do you have fresh fuel from the servo or using the old fuel in the can?

great question bruce!

ill go get some new fuel and give it a shot.

will let you know how it goes in a bout 2 hrs.

Johno123,

I would suggest that you drain the tank and carby before trying to start it. One other thing try putting some fresh fuel down the plug hole because if it has old fuel in the sump it will still be hard to start.

just bought some new fuel, emptied the fuel tank, injected fuel straight in through the spark plug hole but still no luck, smoke but no starting.

im laying in my own pool of sweat atm from all the pulling!

any other clues?

If that smoke is black, the mixture is too rich to fire or there isn't enough compression or the spark timing is wrong. You've probably carboned-up your new plug a bit too, but hopefully it will recover when you get it running.

To get it to run you need 4 things: a suitable mixture of air and fuel in the intake manifold beyond the carburetor; compression in the crankcase when the piston descends; compression in the cylinder when the piston ascends; and a strong spark at the right time. If you haven't done so you should check that all four things are happening, each in its due season. Starting with the induction process, is there a pulsating suction at the open end of the carburetor when you spin the engine with the spark plug installed (but disconnected, for safety)? If yes, can you feel crankcase compression on the down-stroke and cylinder compression on the upstroke, so you feel two resistance pulses per revolution? If no crankcase compression, you may have severe piston scoring, or leaky main bearing seals. If no cylinder compression, you may have a problem with rings, or with a decompressor if you have one. If you pass those tests the base engine is probably OK and you just have to worry about air/fuel ratio, spark, and spark timing.
Bruce has told you the usual way to test for air/fuel mixture problems. It bypasses things like intake manifold and bearing seal air leaks - if you have cylinder compression and correctly-timed spark, it should start and run for several seconds. If it doesn't, and you have good blue spark, there has to be some suspicion that there isn't enough compression - it is hard for a Victa's ignition timing to change.

Have you got the belt on?

its alive ALIVE!!!!!!!!


finally the b@#$h started!

Heres the problem.... (my fault)

After i cleaned the decompressor i was wondering how come it was so easy to pull start (even though i still felt the compression somewhat). I took off the decompressor and replaced it with a spark plug to check compression, compression was good!

I then took apart the decompressor and noticed that i reassembled it in the wrong order! Once the decompressor was reassembled it started on first pull!

Basically i wasnt getting enough compression is seems because of my silly mistake!

ill go run her in now and see if she runs for a while, will post results in the evening!

YEY!

Johno123,

Good to see you sorted it out.

thanks bruce , deejay, Grumpy and Joe!

i gave it a bit of a go (15 minutes doing the edges in the rain!) and its running like a dream!

wohoo!

Good work Johno123, glad to see it's up and running.

By the way Johno, what blade are you using on your T-A-Cut?
I have just changed my straight blade over to the circular blade, and find that it does a terrific job....slightly wider in the cut, but leaves a brilliant finish.

ooohh, how much did the blade set you back? ( i like the look of a slightly wider cut). also, if you can tell me what brand/name/model number it is i would appreciate it!

also, how do you go about doing the kerb edge? (my land is slightly higher against the kerb so even with the tilt the machine is working at 45 degree angle, pretty tough stuff).

I must admit, it was an oversight of the designers that they have placed the tank tap on the side which the machine tilts away from, so that if youre close to empty and working a hard angle, the machine often goes lean at which point the edger must be leveled out to correct the fuel flow issue.

Johno123,

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