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by maxwestern - 25/04/24 10:58 AM
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Hi All
I know this is mainly an Outdoor Tool/Machine site (been helped before with my mower), but I thought I would ask if Members had an opinion on the following.
I want to buy a Sliding Compound Mitre Saw (SCMS).
I'm looking at the Ryobi 2000 Watt, 254mm SCMS's (from Bunnings) and wanted opinion's on 2 models which I see little difference in except for the price. I'm just going to list the difference's in the documentation from the Ryobi site. I've included links to the full Ryobi Technical details if anyone wants to see them.
Ryobi EMS2025SCL ($299): - Twin over table rails increase cutting capacity and smooth action - Horizontal (�D�) handle with soft grip rubber overmold for increased user comfort - Large bevel locking lever - Material vice to secure the work piece - Secondary handle makes transportation easier - Mitre angle indicator for clearer angle selection Includes a Repetitious Material Stop
Ryobi EMS2026SCL (around $385 I think): - 3 bearing easi-glide sliding mechanism with chromium rails - Horizontal (�D�) handle with GripZone� rubber overmold for increased user comfort - Front handle mitre locking for enhanced safety and convenience - Sliding Fence adjusts for increased work support - Metal base with indexed mitre stops - Livetool Indicator� glows blue when plugged into the power supply
Question 1: Is there anything in the difference's which would make one superior to the other??? (I realise some differences may just be the way it's worded, but I'm unsure)
Question 2: Which Ryobi would would Members pick and why??? (I know you might never pick a Ryobi but if you had to)
Question 3: I'm told the 40T Blade is a tad rough, what Tooth Size should I get for neater cuts???
My first project with the SCMS will be a new Pantry cupboard where I intend to Trench? (Rebate?, Notch?) the frame. After doing the Outdoor Privacy Screen by hand I'm so over trying to set a Circular Saw to the correct depth and Chiseling it all out, hence my desire for a SCMS for this and future projects.
Thanks in advance for any advice Members can offer.
Regards John
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Joe Carroll
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WHen I first started reading I was thinking you were asking about ryobi whipper snippers Their power tools are good for the home handyman type person, I have a ryobi drop saw among other things and with the small amount of use it does get it goes really well,
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G'day Joe and Thanks for the Input I agree with you, it's probably a runout sale, the hard part is that these days price isn't indictive of quality and performance. I'm leaning towards the latter, mainly because it mentions 3 bearings, I figure they will give better support and wear less as a result. The guy in the Bunnings Tool Shop said that as far as he was concerned the only difference was the Motor, better or worse he didn't know and he recommended the former as the one I should pick, he has never led me astray before so I'm a bit torn between his pick and what my heart tells me I should pick. I know the cheaper brands such as Ryobi aren't as accurate and nicely built as the Top End Brands, but I can't justify $800-$1,000 for something I'm not using everyday (Translation = The wife would kill me). I've read that the Ryobi scales and accuracy leave a lot to be desired, I'm willing to live with that, making sure I measure twice, lightly score, cut and stuff it up, then get it right on the second attempt Well I'm off to Bunnings now, I will have a play with them both, twist and turn to see how much freeplay each has and read the Motor labels if I can, then make my decision. I will post back and let you know what I decided. Thanks again John P.S. My posts are coming out aligned centrally and I have to edit in the code to get them left aligned, any idea's why anyone???
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G'day, I have various Ryobi power tools including a scroll saw and plane. I have had Makita and dewalt amongst other brands and have found if treated right Ryobi measure up perfectly. The one thing I have found with any saw, especially compound saws is that the bigger wattage motor the better the cut. I believe this because the blade spins with higher torque and therefore doesn�t 'bog' down as easily. as to which one if you were like me and used it every few days for minor to major jobs I would spent the extra, but if its a 'I need one for this job' the cheaper one would probably perform fine assuming its got enough capacity Anyway there just my thoughts. Ow and as to blade, ive got away with the standard coarse one fine in my GMC accept when cutting melamine. Regards jay
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G'day jay and Thanks for the advice I agree with you about the amount of Grunt a Motor has, nothing worse than getting stuck into a job and you have to back off because the Tool your using can't handle what you consider a acceptable amount of work. Grinders are the ones that spring to mind for me, you want to do something quick and fast and it just slows down so much that you feel like your using kid gloves to do a rough job. I won't be using it everyday let alone every week of month, but I would like to know that when I do use it I have a reasonably good quality tool at hand. Just the way I am Thanks again for the advice. Regards John
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G'day All Well I went down to Bunnings and had a play with both Models of the Ryobi SCMS. I twisted and turned both of them, they both seemed fairly tight and there was no discernable freeplay or difference between the two. The table rotation and saw angle movements were pretty much the same, smooth and free. The Motor label information is identical, but you can see that physically the casing is slightly different between the two of them. The D grip handles are slightly different too, but nothing to write home about. The table lock mechanism on both is different, the former has a seperate knob while the latter uses the handle you turn the table with as the locking mechanism, only time will tell which is the better system, the obvious difference being the latter is a one handed operation, you move the table using the knob and lock it using the same knob. As for the sliding mechanisms, the former has a flat plate on each side of the housing, which without taking it apart seems to indicate bushes to me. The latter has cupped end plates which indicates linear bearings to me. The final decision came down to how the slides operated, the former felt rough, like it was sliding over a surface that wasn't smooth, the latter had a really nice smooth movement. With all that done and the guy at Bunnings rolling his eyes at me in a similar way the wife does I decided to buy the Ryobi EMS2026SCL for $385 I also bought a Irwin 80T blade for the neater cuts I want, a 60T might have done the job and a 100T was in my opinion an overkill, again only time and experience will tell, not cheap suckers I can tell you. Thanks again for the responses I got. Regards John
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