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My gutters are 40 years old, I have tried keeping them cleaned but the 7 cyprus trees along the fence made that a never ending problem. When I cleaned them I would paint them with fish oil so that has helped keep them intact. Along the tree side it is starting to get pinhole bubbles when I cleaned it last year and as soon as I can see a few hot days coming I will give them another clean and paint the inside with Hydroseal, that should give them another 10/15 years so by then probably not my problem
Tyler,
1987 should be copper throughout. The rusty water is that from the hot or cold tap, you didn't mention the kitchen
I have a garage under the house that sits about 4 feet below ground level with a room the same size beside it. This has 2 pumps in it and high water alarm if both pumps happen to fail with separate power supplies and power fail alarms to both power supplies. Helps when your son is a sparky

That's the odd thing Norm, its really hard to get the kitchen to do it. Hot water only. Kitchen is the furthest away from HWS, bathroom closest

I have done a similar thing but with zinc paint in the past. I get up the ladder each year with a leaf blower and give them a good shoot out and then check for any bubbling. Easier now with the husky I picked up - 1 pull start at the top of the ladder and next to no vibration.

Definitely handy to have a sparkie in the family. Have you ever had the high water alarm come on?

Hi Tyler,
rust in the hot water only says the hottie is rusting out, but strange that you are getting different amounts out of different taps, doesn't make any sense
Never had the high water alarm activate, it runs on a 12 volt system that is charged by a trickle charger on a time clock each day. I test it about once a month or when I think of it. I find the fish oil works best as it actually bonds with the rust. The Zinc based paint is good but it only goes where you put it, the fish oil travels around corners and in between lapped joints. Once it has dried fully that is when I paint the Hydroseal over it and that virtually makes a new waterproof skin on the inside, so water then should not come in contact with the water again

That is a really good idea Norm. I think I do that as a stop gap until the roof is done and the new gutters go on. There are only a few seams causing issues.

Its strange regarding the different amount on different taps - I could not ascertain how it is either. Just that another Dux is never going there again - will 'install a Rheem' this time

Hi Tyler,
Is there any chance somebody has made a dodgey alteration to the hot supply to the laundry and bathroom. If somebody has fitted a gal fitting in there (big no no on the hot water) this could be the cause of the problem, it is unlikely to be the Dux but anything is possible. A way you could test it is to disconnect the hot coming out of the unit and connect a hose to it and then turn the taps on and if you still get the rusty water coming out you know there is a problem in the pipes and not the unit

The builder was as dodgy as hell and went broke a couple months after. They built the house sideways and had to redesign as the front door would have been (effectively) in the back yard.

The telecom guy alerted the fact that about 60 of the roof tiles were cracked in half and the apprentice who put the tiles in the kitchen stuffed it severely.

The house has never had any mods that I know of.

I think I will do what you recommend. I will switch the system off, shut off the cold water intake, leave it for a few hours to cool, and remove one of the lower blank plugs down the bottom (has multiple outlets on the tank but only 1 is used) and see what comes out, then flush it.

Hopefully it last until december when I will have time to go and get a good deal on a rheem and get someone to install (pains me to pay for sometging I can do myself, but legally its an issue)

Tyler, I wouldn't be racing out to replace the unit, I'm not convinced the unit would be the cause. If all taps were having the same issue then I would agree but I think there is something going on with the pipework. As I said disconnect the water from the discharge side of the unit and hook a garden hose up to it and if the water runs clean then the unit is the problem, if not the pipe is the problem somewhere

Hi Norm

I agree with you that its like it is the pipework. Will drain the system and see how it is

Found the invoice from 2015 when it went in - usually only last 5-6 years with the last Dux Sh*t*er lasting Jan 14 to Dec 15. Warranty refused.

As its coming up to 5 years in December, I keep feeling the end is nigh. Plus, I would prefer to do the research, get a good deal on a quality system + install as opposed to running around after its blown up

The one in there is actually a 'Thermann' not Dux - probably because the previous Dux one died that quickly. These are electric by the way.

Shows how much attention I pay it - I can't even remember the brand. I turn the pressure purge taps once a month to stop them seizing, thats it.

5/6 years is a pain, I've been at my place 40 years now and still on my second gas hottie, current one has 2002 sticker on it so I expect it is hearing end of life. Yes it is always an issue with a hottie, working perfectly one day, bloody disaster the next and rush decisions have to be made on the spot. My next one is going to be an instantaneous

Thats rare Norm, although over here I have known people to get max 15 out of gas hot water systems. The house next door had a Rheem and it went for at least 25 years, and it probably still had a few years left when the house was knocked down.

Do you have very hard water?

Have had this reply sitting here since 11am and forgot to press post haha

Hi Tyler,
no idea what the water is but from what I know about my neighbours hotties is that my experience is fairly similar to theirs

Bloody hot water systems!

What a hell of a day.

So now I need to figure out the best hot water system again;

Does anyone have any preferred brands I should look at - I am still thinking Rheem, but am open to others (except Dux)

Thanks

Hey Tyles,
what about those tankless hot water units that heat the water on the go?

just get a second hand one and install it yourself...thats what i did,i will never buy new again after being stuffed around with warranty...i even have a spare back up one now as people give them away....humans are privileged consumers who dont value resources

Thanks guys

Mf, if it was gas, I would be doing instant, but its electric.

Enaj, I would do exactly that however I made that suggestion yesterday and was told no way are you DIY ing the system

Probably for the best considering my track record with 240v

That was bloody hilarious!
Joe Biden has some serious case of dementia.
C’ome on man!!

Until you have to take care of a person with Dementia you have no room to talk. Dementia unlike Alzheimer is a much worst disease. Yes the first initial years they are similar but the later stages devastating to the patient and the family members. I know first hand as my mother died of the disease.

At the onset she would forget how use the cook stove and washing machine. After the first year she started getting really bad and the last six months she reverted back to being a toddler and a stripper. I couldn't keep clothes on her. Nor was it pleasant having to constantly having to clean everything and try not have her to wonder off. Or trying to keep her from falling a she also became a climber. She had no idea who she was.

One time she was with my brother while I looking for some parts. He just got in his car and drove off. She tried following him. And a van full of women found her standing in the middle of an intersection. I had came out of the parts room and going to my car so I could put the parts in it for deliver when they walked up to the driveway. They ask me did I know the woman they was helping. I looked and it was my mother. My brother didn't even tell he was leaving.

What worst he refused to help in any way with our mother and it all was left for me to do along the nurses aids. I ran on pure will power the last months. After my mother died I nearly lapse from complete exhaustion. It took at least a year to recover from it.

Dementia is not a disease to make fun of at all. It is a deadly disease as many diagnosed with it have less than a year to live where Alzheimer patients can live for many years.