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Hi Max,
That sort of explains it but I'm sure there was a fix there somewhere. I guess Victa had spent so much on the R&D on developing it and the subsequent warranty claims they would have been reluctant to spend further money on trying to solve a problem on a mower that was probably costing them more to build than what they were selling them for

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G'day Max , Norm and all members

Yep, great points made there.
I was thinking your thoughts today.

The tech bulletin explains nothing about ... why?
And the 'solution' always smacked of a compromise in using different shaped pistons.

My thinking is that the fuel reed valve would have favoured one direction.
Again, how many opposed twin cylinder two stroke designs were made with
just one carby?

I feel the design was flawed, and the solution a compromise.

Thanks Max for your expertise here.

Norm, I think you nailed it - for me.
The Victa Twin was always a Ford Edsel in my books. Pity.

Jack

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Hi Jack,
Can you think of another horizontal opposed vertical shaft motor designed for a domestic mower?

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Hi Norm

Hi Jack

Plus the rest.

Hmm “Hi-Jack” is a powered ultralight aircraft driven by a horizontally opposed twin cylinder Skylark motor.
https://victoriancollections.net.au/items/51085d662162ef0e30b5463f

A few twin cylinder mowers, Maytag motor.

Cheers
Max.

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Where do you dig all this stuff up Max, there is a huge offset between the cylinders.

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On Google Norm ,those 3 mowers above are American mowers.

The offset must be because the twin 2 stroke motor must have the pistons at the top of the bore
at the same time when it shares the same crankcase also the descending pistons are compressing the fuel-air mixture trapped beneath it in the crankcase.

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Where do you dig all this stuff up Max, there is a huge offset between the cylinders.
G'day Max and Norm,
Norm, all I know is that 'Max has his ways' [said with German accent ...].

Max, Many thanks. Twin 2-strokes are not that common on lawnmowers.
I have done quite a bit of research on Leonard Goodall.
The Maytag twin is the only other two stroke engine I know of used on a lawnmower.

I'm not sure whether the first two images incorrectly describe the engine make
as a lawnmower brand. I do not think Maytag made lawnmowers ...?

Goodall certainly did, and he used Maytag engines.
Maytak were big on washing machines and still survive to this day.

https://www.maytag.com/

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Hmm “Hi-Jack” is a powered ultralight aircraft driven by a horizontally opposed twin cylinder Skylark motor.
Max, when I hear 'Hijack' I normally duck for cover.

I suspect someone will respond with 'Hi, Jack'.
That Skylark motor must be of great historical interest.

Many thanks for digging the rich dirt here!
Brilliant and rich soil.

Cheers
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Jack

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I would love to get up close to the Hi-Jack motor and just see how it was actually designed.

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Hi Norm

G'day Jack ," duck for cover" if Jack is on a Plane, these days if you say "Hi Jack" on a Plane you will get arrested .

Yes I agree Jack Maytag is the engine not the mower ,it's just that I name my mower images so I can find them in the folders,
a lot of the time a put a Z or an A at the front of the name to find the image,the mower names are on some of the images,just a little
deciphering is needed , Velva Cut, Monitor, Goodall.

The early Maytag washing machines are a classic you literally had to give them a good kick to get them started,
what a great idea of putting a kickstarter on a washing machine.

Here are some images of a 2 stroke Skylark ultralight aircraft engine ,note the use of a few Victa mower parts.

I see you can buy a CDI setup for a twin for about $100.

I have not seen a triple cylinder rotary lawn mower yet.


Cheers
Max.

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