PS. I've noticed that no one has commented on the Victa Twins I mentioned. This must prove what I thought is what's happening and that is their popularity is waning as are most Victa's for that matter.
Because they are s**t. I wish someone would work out a way to modify them to fit a PowerTorque on the base. The base is great, though catchers are even harder to find than a regular width thumb latch.
