Ok so with a new primer cap,new float,new needle it starts first pull, my problem now is would it have worked this way without the clip fitted as many do? I had another cap and needle fitted on this mower and it was starting first pull anyway. The problem here if the clip solves the problem you will not know you might have had a problem in the first place, so difficult to prove. Variances in float travel seem to be a major factor and there is nothing that can be done to overcome this. The issue I had with the previous primer cap and float I was not able to see that the float was causing the issue because by looking at it it seemed to have enough travel and appeared to be pulling the needle down enough but it obviously wasn't