Ok so now I'm looking for a way of salvaging my mates 2 Honda no longer self propelled. The replacement gearboxes are rubbish, I have fitted 2 and they just don't last, and he wants me to see if I can fit the Honda motors on another self propelled base that does not have gearboxes or something with a good gearbox The Ariens with its disc type drive would be good but these are rare on the ground. He knows a Jims man who now only uses a Honda push mower and the Jims man who does our lawn has done the same, obviously the word is out in the lawn mowing community that the Honda self propelled are not up to the task. Anything else spring to mind, it is a pity because as we know the motors are so good