Hi Blue and ODK members,

Yes, this Turner thing is becoming a monster blush
I'm almost ready to say something sensible on the first Turner in the History forums.

I have reluctantly come to appreciate Turner's contribution to history,
in terms of design, but most importantly, their contribution to safety.
I have come to even ... like them.

Yes, the Valiant.
Turner's foray into rear catcher Machines was with the D64 Conquest.
Their best machine, in my view, was the 1965 high arch 'Valiant'.
From what I can gather, Chris's Super is a Valiant, perhaps a "Valiant Super".
p.s. I thing 'Deluxe' just means the 19" version of its equivalent.

Here is a time-frame of Turner Developments:
1959 - 4M released, followed by 2M & 2A
1960 - 5 Four stroke models released
1961 - 3 Four Stroke models released.
1962 - 4 Four stroke models released including the SP30 Self Propelled
1963 - rear catcher mower - the Conquest - introduced.
1965/66 - 11 models released including the Turner-Morrison Reel mowers.
This was also the year that the first plastic (polythene) grass catcher was introduced.
1967 � 11 models with minor changes ( this continued till the close of manufacture)
1968 � Turner selling under licence the TORO USA range including the TORO 21� Reel mower.

Mal, I envy that you have a Cyclops collection. That's an expensive hobby...
Tinware toys are just so interesting from this era.
And remember, the 'Cyclops', too, was a monster!

I think we're lucky in having Chris's great restoration-in-progress.
In my view, it is the most significant Turner design.

All vary Valiant.
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JACK