WOW Ironbark. Thanks for the world of information. Really impressed with your amount of information and the threads. Absolutely astonished at the Choice Magazine article. Had no idea the mag. was around then. I remember as a young fella, my dad at the time bought a brand new Pace with the wind up starter which he had to wind up as I did not have the strength to start it. I do know it had a catcher that was metal. It sat under the house for years at one time and I dragged it out, threw some clean petrol in it, cleaned the plug and away it went.