Hi BB, John and Mystyler
I have been using Yates Buffalo Pro, works well on the usual suspects but not winter grass. I don't have much come up ( touch wood ) each year so I switch to manual also to remove, comes out easy and in one clump.
Was at a garden centre last year and noticed on the shelf a product with bold print on the front, winter grass KILLER, I thought great, this will be easy after a quick scan of the directions. Mixed and applied as per directions, 2 weeks later no change. Gave another application, 2 weeks later the winter grass looked happier than a car full of clowns. I rang the supplier who was a local mob and told him the story, his reply was yes that's right it will have no effect on it at this time of year you need to start spraying at such and such time of year then repeat at bla bla bla. I told him the directions say to mix as per rate and spray, nothing else. He said yes I know, get your money back from where you got it and i'll get the rep to give them a replacement bottle.
As Mystyer points out, we are at the mercy of what grows nearby and the breezes here in Perth helps to spread the love. The place on one side of me is a rental and gardening etc is not high on the agenda. I's been vacant for a bit and the weeds were flowering and getting ready to seed so I grabbed one of the old Victa's out and mowed the front yard. I was speaking to the previous tenant one day and offered to spray the weeds in front yard for free explaining this might help the lawn to grow. She flew off the handle telling me I was one of these so and so's who just want to poison every living thing on the planet and told me to f/o at high volume at least half a dozen times before i got to the end of the driveway, then I heard the front door slam shut, a second later the door opened again and she let rip with a blood curdling F/O. I'm reasonably sure this was the last time we engaged in some friendly neighbourly banter. I have included this story in the thread as it clearly shows how much trouble weeds really are.
It certainly helps when your lawn is in good shape and well knitted as this tends to crowd the weeds out and prevents them from getting to the soil except for winter grass which gets its roots into the soil even in your healthiest patch of lawn.
Cheers
wce